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in some real way. you cannot prove that. >> syria -- how did the united states, the government, the administration handles syria? appropriately, and appropriately, enough, not enough? >> the good thing about afghanistan and iraq wars is that key wheat -- they are keeping us out of syria. we are war-wary. then a serious is a disaster. it is a country with a huge stockpile of chemical weapons. we have allowed the saudis and the qatari to arm the rebels, and they are people who are on the islamists, so the islamists now have the upper hand among the rebels. the west did not do anything comparable with the non-islamic opposition. we are looking at possible country that would divide into three or four, like yugoslavia, or could become 80 hottest -- and syria is a serious country. it is not libya, not afghanistan, and i think we will regret having had no influence on the outcome. >> the fact is that there are opponents of that regime that we would not be associated with either. that is the difficulty there. >> at what point do we say, "that is enough?" we have a military service that
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